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white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#1New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 02:28:13
Florida man shot 3 people he said were threatening him

Quote:

The Bush Doctrine relates to the pre-emptive nature of the attack, as in the Iraq invasion.

Two of the shooting victims died and the third survived despite being hit 11 times.



https://www.newser.com/story/173718/shooters-defense-stand-your-ground-bush-doctrine.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=united&utm_campaign=rss_top




The guy 'says' the three people he shot had been threating him and his family ,in the past . They weren't at the time of the shooting , that's where the Bush Doctrine supposely comes into play .

This is taking "It's all Bush's fault " a bit far , don't cha think ??
Willi On August 21, 2018




northinmind,
#2New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 02:37:35
@white_swan53 Said


This is taking "It's all Bush's fault " a bit far , don't cha think ??



yes.
in order to fit, the 3 would have needed WMDs
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#3New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 02:48:58
@Willi Said

yes.
in order to fit, the 3 would have needed WMDs



Or at least rumors or false reports ,,,,,
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#4New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 03:36:15
Hopefully will get to know "bubba" in a personal way in jail!
chaski On April 19, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#5New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 03:57:10
@white_swan53 Said


This is taking "It's all Bush's fault " a bit far , don't cha think ??



Depends on whether or not the it works as a defense strategy in the court room.. i.e. with the jury.

If it works for "Florida Man" then it was not taking "It's all Bush's fault" too far.
shinobinoz On May 28, 2017
Stnd w Standing Rock





Wichita, Kansas
#6New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 04:06:22
@chaski Said

Depends on whether or not the it works as a defense [/i} strategy in the court room.. i.e. with the jury.

If it works for "Florida Man" then it was not taking "It's all Bush's fault" too far.


Tis kind of a strange analogy attempt.
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#7New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 04:06:30
@chaski Said

Depends on whether or not the it works as a defense [/i} strategy in the court room.. i.e. with the jury.

If it works for "Florida Man" then it was not taking "It's all Bush's fault" too far.



Yeah, your absolutly right .
What do you ( being a Florida resident ) think his chances are ?
chaski On April 19, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#8New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 04:09:51
@white_swan53 Said

Yeah, your absolutly right .
What do you ( being a Florida resident ) think his chances are ?



I don't see how the "Bush Doctrine" can be taken seriously.

The SYG... maybe.

In Florida... pretty good chances he'll get off.
chaski On April 19, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#9New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 04:11:25
@shinobinoz Said

Tis kind of a strange analogy attempt.



Yes... this is Florida we are talking about.
white_swan53 On October 07, 2020




n/a, New Mexico
#10New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 07:21:33
This quote is from the local news source linked to in the newser article I linked in my OP.
Stand your ground ?? How does someone decide which part of the ground to stand on after they have successfully snuck up on the ones they are having an ongoing dispute with ?

Quote:

Officials say Woodward snuck up on a Labor Day barbecue and opened fire at about 12:30 a.m. on Sept. 3, 2012. Police arrived and found Gary Lee Hembree, Roger Picior and Bruce Timothy Blake all had been shot. Hembree and Picior died of their injuries. Blake, who was hit 11 times, survived.





Before the incident, police had responded numerous times to the ongoing dispute, according to a release. Woodward and Hembree went to court to discuss the dispute before Judge John D. Moxley. Moxley did not issue an injunction.


In the hours before the shooting, the men called him names, and said “Come on boys. We’re going to get him. We’re going to get him, all three of us.”


Florida law allows people to use deadly force to protect against “imminent death or…prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.”
So what is “imminent”?

Assistant State Attorney Wayne Holmes explained that imminence in a Stand Your Ground case would be determined based on the facts and circumstances of the case – there isn’t a concrete legal definition.

“As with many things in not only the law, but life in general, you’ve got to have a certain amount of flexibility,” he said, later adding: “There’s a certain amount of ability to take the facts, whatever they may be and apply it to that law. Sometimes it fits perfectly; sometimes it doesn’t fit at all.”





https://www.floridatoday.com/article/20130904/NEWS01/309040021/Titusville-slaying-suspect-claims-he-stood-his-ground?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1
Willi On August 21, 2018




northinmind,
#11New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 17:30:20
@white_swan53 Said

Or at least rumors or false reports ,,,,,


that's true.
we never did find what we got told we would.

rumors or false reports it is then
dang i hope folks ain't gonna be allowed to go shoot each other over words.
someone_else_again On May 20, 2021
Really. Not a dude.





, Washington
#12New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 17:38:58
@white_swan53 Said

This quote is from the local news source linked to in the newser article I linked in my OP.
Stand your ground ?? How does someone decide which part of the ground to stand on after they have successfully snuck up on the ones they are having an ongoing dispute with ?



This makes far too much sense but...
I'd have to say that if part of the ground is the property of one of the parties, that's the party that has the right to stand there. Of course, those three guys had the right to stand their ground...

I get it...it's a legal battle of rock, paper, scissors. Bush Doctrine beats SYG!!
DorkySupergirl On November 02, 2017




, Canada
#13New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 18:49:48
@chaski Said

I don't see how the "Bush Doctrine" can be taken seriously.

The SYG... maybe.

In Florida... pretty good chances he'll get off.



I misread your SYG as DSG and I'm all like, what do I have to do with this?
someone_else_again On May 20, 2021
Really. Not a dude.





, Washington
#14New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 18:54:38
@DorkySupergirl Said

I misread your SYG as DSG and I'm all like, what do I have to do with this?



Pfft. Did you see the Syria thread where Jon mentioned SEA propaganda?
chaski On April 19, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#15New Post! Sep 05, 2013 @ 18:56:05
@DorkySupergirl Said

I misread your SYG as DSG and I'm all like, what do I have to do with this?



The DSG Doctrine: "Throw down the gloves and handle business."
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